Sideview Mirrors Cannot Be Ears.

[Kayota]

Because if that were the case then Lightning and all other racecars would be deaf. That is all I needed to say.

[ebonyviper]

Not necessarily. They can be used to amplify sound and deflect that sound to their side windows, which would be the real "ears" making them able to hear better. Doc was wearing those headphones so that he could act as Lightning's crew chief. That meant that he could talk to Lightning and Lightning could hear him.

I believe Evangeline stated a similiar theory. This isn't really a debate, unless you provide proof.

[Kayota]

Oh. And I just thought it belonged here. 0.o Sorry.

[danni]

ebonyviper said:

This isn't really a debate, unless you provide proof.

So there is proof that rear-view mirrors are ears?

[ebonyviper]

danni said:

ebonyviper said:

This isn't really a debate, unless you provide proof.

So there is proof that rear-view mirrors are ears?

Actually, there isn't any proof at all. Like I said, it's just a theory that really doesn't need to have proof. This is all make-believe, but that doesn't mean we can't make assumptions.

And I am not going to argue about this. I hate arguments. Period.

[danni]

ebonyviper said:

danni said:

So there is proof that rear-view mirrors are ears?

Actually, there isn't any proof at all. Like I said, it's just a theory that really doesn't need to have proof. This is all make-believe, but that doesn't mean we can't make assumptions.

And I am not going to argue about this. I hate arguments. Period.

I wasn't trying to be hostile, I was just presenting my opinion. You were saying that her (I believe) theory wasn't valid as a debate because she has no proof. If you use that logic, than none of the threads in this entire section are valid.

This is a debate forum, where we present theories, and if we disagree with the theories of someone else, present our own. And that was Axel's theory. I don't see anything in the rules that says someone can't invite a debate about something if they do not have absolute proof - as a matter of fact, the things that aren't proven are the only things we can debate about.

I myself imagine that the antennae would make more practical ears. That's what real cars use to pick up sound.

[Amethyst]

If you look where the headphones go the sound making bit goes just at the side of the windshield ( I don't know what that areas called) so maybe the have sound sensors there or something :?

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[ebonyviper]

danni said:

ebonyviper said:

Actually, there isn't any proof at all. Like I said, it's just a theory that really doesn't need to have proof. This is all make-believe, but that doesn't mean we can't make assumptions.

And I am not going to argue about this. I hate arguments. Period.

I wasn't trying to be hostile, I was just presenting my opinion. You were saying that her (I believe) theory wasn't valid as a debate because she has no proof. If you use that logic, than none of the threads in this entire section are valid.

This is a debate forum, where we present theories, and if we disagree with the theories of someone else, present our own. And that was Axel's theory. I don't see anything in the rules that says someone can't invite a debate about something if they do not have absolute proof - as a matter of fact, the things that aren't proven are the only things we can debate about.

I myself imagine that the antennae would make more practical ears. That's what real cars use to pick up sound.

The antenna is more used to pick up things, as has been shown in the RPs.

And in my experience with presenting theories in a debate, the one who makes the first statement must provide proof. So it is up to Axel to do so, not everyone else. She didn't do that.

But here is what she said:

Because if that were the case then Lightning and all other racecars would be deaf. That is all I needed to say.

And I ask: Where's the proof?

Besides, you just can't decide then and there that your theory is true. And you just can't wait until someone else says otherwise. You have to do it yourself. Nobody can or should do it for you. And you can only disprove your theory, not try to state it as fact.

That would seen as lazy on the part of the theorist. I've seen this happen quite a lot on the Yahoo message boards concerning the Evolution vs Creation debate and no one has yet to prove that evolution does not exist, nor have they disproved creation. It's a moot point.

[Volksdragon]

I think Cars can see out of their rear-views. Mater said they were the reason he could drive backwards. And we actually saw him look through them in Mater and the Ghostlight, when he first saw it.

Maybe not "see", but sense visually.

[Tracker89]

Same here. I've always thought, since the first time I saw the movie, that cars' rear view mirrors act as an extra pair of eyes(although they obviously don't look like eyes...that would be freaky). The fact that Mater points his mirror directly at the "ghostlight" pretty much confirms this.

[Orca]

My personal thoughts on the subject?

Cars have ears. They can obviously hear. If you want, you could call the driver/front passenger windows the actual ear "orifices". The sideviews could just be the equivalent of external ears.

In comparison, dolphins have ears (little, itty bitty holes just aft of their eyes); their whole world is more sound than sight. But they don't have anything external in order to maintain a streamlined shape. The same idea applies to race cars.

[taiomega]

i thought their side windows where their ears.. caues that's where their headsets sat.... rear-views are like Rear-views not ears...
*scraches head and desides to drop the Tf version of ears*

[Kayota]

ebonyviper said:

danni said:

I wasn't trying to be hostile, I was just presenting my opinion. You were saying that her (I believe) theory wasn't valid as a debate because she has no proof. If you use that logic, than none of the threads in this entire section are valid.

This is a debate forum, where we present theories, and if we disagree with the theories of someone else, present our own. And that was Axel's theory. I don't see anything in the rules that says someone can't invite a debate about something if they do not have absolute proof - as a matter of fact, the things that aren't proven are the only things we can debate about.

I myself imagine that the antennae would make more practical ears. That's what real cars use to pick up sound.

The antenna is more used to pick up things, as has been shown in the RPs.

And in my experience with presenting theories in a debate, the one who makes the first statement must provide proof. So it is up to Axel to do so, not everyone else. She didn't do that.

But here is what she said:

Because if that were the case then Lightning and all other racecars would be deaf. That is all I needed to say.

And I ask: Where's the proof?

Besides, you just can't decide then and there that your theory is true. And you just can't wait until someone else says otherwise. You have to do it yourself. Nobody can or should do it for you. And you can only disprove your theory, not try to state it as fact.

That would seen as lazy on the part of the theorist. I've seen this happen quite a lot on the Yahoo message boards concerning the Evolution vs Creation debate and no one has yet to prove that evolution does not exist, nor have they disproved creation. It's a moot point.

Did I say my theory was true? Did I actually state it as a fact? I'd thought, from the RP, that you guys considered mirrors ears. Evidently, I was wrong. Windows makes more sense to me, yes. Sorry that I can't ALWAYS be right like Ebony. We aren't ALL as intelligent as you.

[danni]

Guys, guys, guys, why are you getting so uptight over something as small as this? It's just a fandom, and no one can be right or wrong. ALL theories are just that, theories, unless a Pixar representitive comes in here and tells us otherwise.

EbonyViper, the RPs have nothing to do with the cannon word of Cars and the actions and uses of different body parts in roleplays do not state what is right or wrong in the Cars world. Only evidence from the movie is valid. I do not read any of the RPs that take place on this or any other forum.

You are correct in saying that Axel's debate was a bit lazy. But it was by no means against the rules. She stated that she disagreed with the general consensus that the cars ears are the rear-view mirrors. She is allowed, and I have gone over the rules once again just to make sure of that. Her opinion is just as valid as yours, and mine, no matter how she states it.

I'm not here to defend Axel, per say, but to defend the right everyone has on this board to present their own opinions no matter who agrees or disagrees. We all have the right to disagree, but none of us have the right to say that someone else's opinion isn't valid.

I really don't know why everyone is becoming so hostile over such a silly subject.

I think that the ears of cars are the antennae (they are also used to manipulate objects and gesture, as seen with Sarge and Luigi in the movie). Some of us think that the mirrors are ears, some of us think that they have small internal ears around the front windows. None of us are right or wrong, and none of us can possibly be proven right or wrong - we all just want a chance to say what we think without being hounded by someone else simply because they don't like the way we present our opinion.

orca said:

My personal thoughts on the subject?

Cars have ears. They can obviously hear. If you want, you could call the driver/front passenger windows the actual ear "orifices". The sideviews could just be the equivalent of external ears.

In comparison, dolphins have ears (little, itty bitty holes just aft of their eyes); their whole world is more sound than sight. But they don't have anything external in order to maintain a streamlined shape. The same idea applies to race cars.

To me, the rearview mirrors are sensory organs for sight, like when Mater used his to look at the Ghostlight behind him, and he uses them to drive backwards.

But that's a really great theory. Just because you don't have big honkin' ears doesn't mean you're deaf. Dolphins can hear just as good, if not better, than rabbits, and look at the ear difference. ;D

[Kayota]

Yeah, I don't think rearviews are ears. I was just... well, I interpreted the RP as saying that they were ears. My mistake. I think the front windows are ears now.